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what doma says is two things. one state does not have to recognize the marriage law, same-sex marriage law, of another state. that would be struck down and then there would have to be another test as to full faith and credit. >> if you move from california to utah and you're getting the recognized marriage in california but not in utah, but in utah living in salt lake city you'd be able to get social security benefits and all the federal stuff. >> you would -- it's not clear. >> it would depend how the court rules in that case. >> if the court reaches the question of full faith and credit, what that is, utah must recognize the marriage laws of california, then, yes -- >> but you'd still be getting your social security checks, wouldn't you? >> it's not clear -- >> let's go back to a clear case. if prop 8 -- if the decision by the 9th, if the decision to strike that down, if that is upheld, where do we stand? what does that do? is equality then the law of the land? is marriage equality the law of land? >> it would d
what doma says is two things. one state does not have to recognize the marriage law, same-sex marriage law, of another state. that would be struck down and then there would have to be another test as to full faith and credit. >> if you move from california to utah and you're getting the recognized marriage in california but not in utah, but in utah living in salt lake city you'd be able to get social security benefits and all the federal stuff. >> you would -- it's not clear....
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the supreme court is taking up a prop 8 and a doma case. does the president need to take a stronger stance on this now? >> i think he should. both on the substance and the politics. the constitution clearly states every american has equal rights under the law. that includes the right for loving committed couples to get married. it's a no brainer. on the pollices, as you said, that 53% support, it shot up ten points in two years. america is at a tipping point on this issue. you are right about the young people. they are going to be the majority of the electorate over the next two presidential cycles. they are already a voice in a n. it's all upside for the president and the democrats. >> erin, i'm going to get you to weigh in after the break on the president's legacy on this issue. >>> and the must-reads, the picks after this. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. with efficient absorption in one daily dose. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the f
the supreme court is taking up a prop 8 and a doma case. does the president need to take a stronger stance on this now? >> i think he should. both on the substance and the politics. the constitution clearly states every american has equal rights under the law. that includes the right for loving committed couples to get married. it's a no brainer. on the pollices, as you said, that 53% support, it shot up ten points in two years. america is at a tipping point on this issue. you are right...
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eight of them deal with the federal defense of marriage act, or doma. joining me now is chris geidner. the man who knows the supreme court inside and out, pete williams. pete, good to have you with us. break it down. which cases are we talking about, and how quickly might we find out whether they will move forward? >> reporter: well, if they're going to take any of these cases, thomas, it's very likely we'll find out this afternoon. and i think the most likely event here is that they will grant one of the cases that challenges the federal defense of marriage act. passed in 1966 by congress signed by president clinton, it defines marriage as for federal law purposes as only the legal union of one man and one woman. now, the practical effect of that is that in the nine states that now grant or soon will grant same-sex couples the legal right to get married, those couples are legally married under state law, but the federal government doesn't recognize their marriage, which means that they can't get survivors' benefits, they don't get tax benefits, they do
eight of them deal with the federal defense of marriage act, or doma. joining me now is chris geidner. the man who knows the supreme court inside and out, pete williams. pete, good to have you with us. break it down. which cases are we talking about, and how quickly might we find out whether they will move forward? >> reporter: well, if they're going to take any of these cases, thomas, it's very likely we'll find out this afternoon. and i think the most likely event here is that they will...
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chris, i want to understand doma a little bit better. defense of marriage act. if that was out of the way would tam have had the benefits that she would have with her 27 year partner or no. >> this is the problem with having a law like doma that has the country has evolved and places like california have had relationships there are a lot of changes in the same that same-sex couples were living their lives. now there are questions about what benefits they would be able to have if doma was gone. because obviously a lot of the federal benefits currently relate to marriage laws. so even if we got rid of the defensive marriage act, when a couple isn't legally married in that state, there would be a whole lot of questions on how we treat those couples. and it sounded like tam and sally would have been in that situation. >> one more quick thing about doma. my understanding was it allowed states to say -- like alabama, we don't want to recognize the gay marriage act that was recognized in massachusetts. but does it also have a federal component. >> yeah, back when it wa
chris, i want to understand doma a little bit better. defense of marriage act. if that was out of the way would tam have had the benefits that she would have with her 27 year partner or no. >> this is the problem with having a law like doma that has the country has evolved and places like california have had relationships there are a lot of changes in the same that same-sex couples were living their lives. now there are questions about what benefits they would be able to have if doma was...
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. >> doma covers the whole country and federal law. how do the two things interact with each other. >> they have almost a dozen cases involving same-sex marriage before them right now. >> also define doma, if you would. >> the defensive marriage act passed in 1996 which says for federal tax and other federal purposes, marriage shall be defined only between a man and a woman. so a couple of different federal court of appeals in the second circuit and the first circuit have struck down that aspect of doma, saying that the federal government has to treat same-sex married couples from those states that recognize same-sex marriage as married for federal purposes. so i think a lot of people properly speculate that the supreme court will have to take at least one of these doma cases, because when lower courts are struck down in aederal statute, that's a big deal, and we have to get a resolution of that. whether the preme court says at the same time it's going to go ahead and take the prop 8 case alongside or whether it will take a doma case a
. >> doma covers the whole country and federal law. how do the two things interact with each other. >> they have almost a dozen cases involving same-sex marriage before them right now. >> also define doma, if you would. >> the defensive marriage act passed in 1996 which says for federal tax and other federal purposes, marriage shall be defined only between a man and a woman. so a couple of different federal court of appeals in the second circuit and the first circuit...
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first of all, it is not a violation of doma. second, i think this amendment is a violation of the first amendment freedom of religion rights of that faith minister and of those service members. there's a difference between legal marriage and the religious ceremony that commemorates a marriage. i completely agree that a rule or statute of the department of defense that purports to authorize the legal institute demerit among service members would be outside the jurisdiction of what the department does. no one is suggesting that should be the case. we are suggesting that if a chaplain chooses to perform a religious ceremony voluntarily that involves two service members of the same gender. the exclusion of the right to do that with two people different agendas differently it -- is a violation of religious freedom. no one has to accept as a religious doctrine same-sex marriage. i would be the first one to vote against and speak against any rule that says the catholic priest has to perform a same-sex marriage. or an orthodox rabbi or
first of all, it is not a violation of doma. second, i think this amendment is a violation of the first amendment freedom of religion rights of that faith minister and of those service members. there's a difference between legal marriage and the religious ceremony that commemorates a marriage. i completely agree that a rule or statute of the department of defense that purports to authorize the legal institute demerit among service members would be outside the jurisdiction of what the department...
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. >> there are any number of issues on the far right about eric holder in particular, doma, the voter id laws, arizona immigration, the issue on where to try. doma was one of them, voter id was a second, the arizona bill was a third, and also where the 9/11 detainees would be tried. always coming back on holder's watch, and serving as a basis of antipathy on the right. is it related to substance or is there something else driving this? >> there's a degree to which holder has become the favorite punching bag of the right, and perhaps to some degree, a stand in for the president himself. despite what we sought in the rose garden the other day, there are limits in american society to what you can say to the president and what you can do to the president and say to his face. they don't apply so clearly to members of the cabinet. you can get away with a lot more invective toward members of the cabinet, and for a lot of republicans who may feel they can't beat up the president directly or harshly as the constinch wnts want to, they feel more liberated going every the attorney general. >> i'
. >> there are any number of issues on the far right about eric holder in particular, doma, the voter id laws, arizona immigration, the issue on where to try. doma was one of them, voter id was a second, the arizona bill was a third, and also where the 9/11 detainees would be tried. always coming back on holder's watch, and serving as a basis of antipathy on the right. is it related to substance or is there something else driving this? >> there's a degree to which holder has become...
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>> well -- >> he's enforcing doma now. >> he dropped opposition to the case. the president is doing what he can do in the context that he's in. he's also fighting other bigger fights. the challenge for the republicans, though, is going to be this is a big problem with young voters. republicans have got to find their way to get past some of the more backward looking rhetoric they've had for the last couple of elections, start looking forward and appealing to this new class of voters. >> great conversation. thank you, guys. >>> we do expect to learn more details about the oregon mall shooting that left three people dead at a news conference this afternoon. that shooting terrified christmas shoppers and their loved ones, including this mom who was texting with her daughter who was trapped inside. >> i just want to hug her and i want her out. i was like are you still locked up, they haven't gotten the shooter. she said yes, i know, and we are. apparently it was at nordstrom's. >> nbc's mike taibbi joins me from the scene in clackamas, oregon. what's the scene ther
>> well -- >> he's enforcing doma now. >> he dropped opposition to the case. the president is doing what he can do in the context that he's in. he's also fighting other bigger fights. the challenge for the republicans, though, is going to be this is a big problem with young voters. republicans have got to find their way to get past some of the more backward looking rhetoric they've had for the last couple of elections, start looking forward and appealing to this new class of...
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it happened on the doma issue. because doma does address the general issue of man, woman, marriage. but then you have california, prop 8 and prop 8 struck down and movement in california. other states that have legal i seed gay marriage. maryland, for instance. so, it's not like the feds are going to try to enforce dome marks right? >> two different issues. one is criminal and one is something totally different. >> right, it's still selective. i'm not making a judgment. it's interesting that there are these conflicts. and this happens on not a lot of issues. and what's the latest with you on -- your name is so difficult to say but anna hita, what's your take on the pot issue? >> my take is that i would urge washington pot smokers not to rush out and pull out the cheetoes quite yet. because under federal law it is illegal to possess, to sell, to smoke pot. we know that federal law trumps state law. so i think not only will the federal -- the feds have an obligation to get in there and ensure that their laws are upheld. >> laura: their laws are on the books. whether immigration, their
it happened on the doma issue. because doma does address the general issue of man, woman, marriage. but then you have california, prop 8 and prop 8 struck down and movement in california. other states that have legal i seed gay marriage. maryland, for instance. so, it's not like the feds are going to try to enforce dome marks right? >> two different issues. one is criminal and one is something totally different. >> right, it's still selective. i'm not making a judgment. it's...
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who is going to defend doma before the high court? >> it's actually already happened because in the federal appeals courts when the justice department said it couldn't anymore defend a law because it concluded it was unconstitutional, house republicans stepped into carry on the legal battle and they are already here in the supreme court asking the court to take these cases. so they would defend the law. >> pete williams our man at the supreme court and we should note if there is a development here during this hour, of course pete will come back and we'll break it live. >> you bet. >>> let's bring in constitutional law expert robert shapiro. he's also a former clerk for retired supreme court justice john paul stevens. good afternoon to you, sir. >> good afternoon. >> as more states legalize same-sex marriage, is there going to be more pressure on the justices to address this issue? >> absolutely. i think the justices inevitably react to the trends that they see around. and as more and more states do it, this issue of what is going to b
who is going to defend doma before the high court? >> it's actually already happened because in the federal appeals courts when the justice department said it couldn't anymore defend a law because it concluded it was unconstitutional, house republicans stepped into carry on the legal battle and they are already here in the supreme court asking the court to take these cases. so they would defend the law. >> pete williams our man at the supreme court and we should note if there is a...
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one is the defense of marriage act, doma, passed by congress in 1996. the other is the famous proposition 8, in caiforni which would hav fordden same-sex marriage in that state. >> four years ago, voters in california approved proposition 8, an amendment to the state's constitution banning same-sex marriage in the state, only to have it overturned two years later by a federal judge who said the amendment denied gays and lesbians the equal protection of the law guaranteed by the u.s. constitution. >> "today, we are more american because of this decision..." >> a huge decision that would require all states to recognize gay marriage should the u.s. supreme court agree. the second case involves the federal defense of marriage act-doma, for short. the law denies same-sex couples who marry the same federal benefits routinely accorded heterosexual marriages, including many tax benefits like the right to file a joint return. doma is being challenged by edie windsor, whose relationship with thea spayer spanned more than 40 years. they had met in the early sixtie
one is the defense of marriage act, doma, passed by congress in 1996. the other is the famous proposition 8, in caiforni which would hav fordden same-sex marriage in that state. >> four years ago, voters in california approved proposition 8, an amendment to the state's constitution banning same-sex marriage in the state, only to have it overturned two years later by a federal judge who said the amendment denied gays and lesbians the equal protection of the law guaranteed by the u.s....
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>> the doma case is a much more easy case. all it does is to return congress to its original position of following whatever states say the definition of marriage are. so it was crafted because it's a movement. they tend to be pro-state's rights and the liberals are pro-gay so arguing towards the middle, these are justice kennedy's favorite things. that's clearly a fifth vote for this case. we assume. so i think everyone imagined everyone since appellate court struck it down, that it leads to the supreme court to review the case. everyone thought they would take the case. i think they are going to do the right thing and strike it down. the other case is much more complicated. the doma case doesn't affect any state decisions. where the perry case, the outcome -- >> that's the prop 8 case in california. >> exactly. thank you for helping me out there. the case says there's this definition passed by a ballot initiative that says that marriage is between one man and one woman. if the the supreme court goes broad on that and says the
>> the doma case is a much more easy case. all it does is to return congress to its original position of following whatever states say the definition of marriage are. so it was crafted because it's a movement. they tend to be pro-state's rights and the liberals are pro-gay so arguing towards the middle, these are justice kennedy's favorite things. that's clearly a fifth vote for this case. we assume. so i think everyone imagined everyone since appellate court struck it down, that it leads...
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what happens it doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4 or whatever? >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. >> what would it mean to a gay person who is married? >> that would mean that couples who are married in those states as well as the district of columbia, their marriages would be recognized by the federal government. now, it would mean we still have a lot of work to do, and depending on how they rule in the prop 8 case, we would still need other states to move forward with the right to marry. >> right. >> thank you. it's an honor to have you on and your organization. elizabeth birch, we are in a much bigger studio. >>> the republican establishment is at war with its crazy wing. they say they lost the election because ideologues pulled mitt romney foo far to the right. that sounds reasonable. wrong says the right wing. we lost because mitt romney wasn't right wing enough. the winner of this little tango will determine whether the gop moves to the center where it might find some votes or becomes an even more fri
what happens it doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4 or whatever? >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. >> what would it mean to a gay person who is married? >> that would mean that couples who are married in those states as well as the district of columbia, their marriages would be recognized by the federal government. now, it would mean we still have a lot of work to do, and depending on how they rule in the prop 8 case, we would still...
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what doma will do, what will happen when we get rid of doma is that gay and lesbian americans who are married will be treated like every other married couple. >> i'm just curious from your perspective, how big a part has the president's endorsement played in the movement for equality in your opinion? >> i would say that the president coming out in support of marriage equality has really liberated other folks who have also been evolving on the issue. by him making a statement and really allowing us to be a part of his evolution and his grappling between his faith and trying to reconcile his political beliefs and values, he's given license to everyone else who's on that journey to also find themselves on the side of equality. i think that has been really impactful and we've seen it in all of the polling around the nation in terms of the uptick and support for marriage equality. >> wow, it is incredible arc of history we're witnessing and participating in. thank you so much, aisha moodie mills for coming into the war room and for joining the battle with the good guys. and for you all out
what doma will do, what will happen when we get rid of doma is that gay and lesbian americans who are married will be treated like every other married couple. >> i'm just curious from your perspective, how big a part has the president's endorsement played in the movement for equality in your opinion? >> i would say that the president coming out in support of marriage equality has really liberated other folks who have also been evolving on the issue. by him making a statement and...
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that's a big step. >> you can decide as the obama administration has not to defend doma. there's still consequences to doma being on the book and reasons why it has to go away. >> absolutely. >> if you are a same-sex couple and married it in one of the states you're now legally married and one dies you face estate tax situations. >> yeah. >> that a heterosexual couple doesn't. every time you file federal taxes you are treated differently. it says these relationships are lesser. i think we've evolved to a point this country where we accept gay and lesbian people as equal and say their relationships in the federal law are lesser than we're saying they're lesser. >> how it fits with the immigration debate as well. >> certainly. it's presently worth noting that bill clinton should maybe take a page from the joe biden playbook because he after all is the person we have to thank -- >> the joe biden playbook. >> and taking a page from it. >> thank you to ari, joy and frank for joining me today. that is all for us here at "now." see you back tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pa
that's a big step. >> you can decide as the obama administration has not to defend doma. there's still consequences to doma being on the book and reasons why it has to go away. >> absolutely. >> if you are a same-sex couple and married it in one of the states you're now legally married and one dies you face estate tax situations. >> yeah. >> that a heterosexual couple doesn't. every time you file federal taxes you are treated differently. it says these...
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when the supremes get down to assessing doma, we can expect the conservatives to defend doma and the liberals to strike it down. the comp significance of the majority will be determined by the votes of chief justice roberts who has shown he's willing to leave the conservatives if he feels the court's legacy is in peril and kenne kennedy. he wrote the constitution prohibits laws singling out a certain class of citizens for disfavored legal status. it appears doma will get tossed in the dust bin of history. the courts other gay rights case comes from california which gave gays the right to marry and then with proposition 8 took it away. taking away an existing right because of animus was prohibited by the court in a '96 decision authored by justice kennedy. but where the doma case asks can the federal government discriminate against married couple, the prop 8 case asks can states bar gays from marrying. kennedy has the opportunity to liberate california or create a gay roe v. wade. s acceptance is only growing. kennedy can only give the gay rights movement a decisive final
when the supremes get down to assessing doma, we can expect the conservatives to defend doma and the liberals to strike it down. the comp significance of the majority will be determined by the votes of chief justice roberts who has shown he's willing to leave the conservatives if he feels the court's legacy is in peril and kenne kennedy. he wrote the constitution prohibits laws singling out a certain class of citizens for disfavored legal status. it appears doma will get tossed in the dust bin...
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obama's press secretary and whether or not it's validation of the obama administration's stance on doma. >>> possibly no more super-sizing your soda. have you heard about this? mayor michael bloomberg's controversial proposal. >>> a battle over a will that would make it a crime tolingly seek an abortion based on gender. sheila jackson lee joins me to weigh in. [ female announcer ] want to spend less and retire with more? then don't get nickle and dimed by high cost investments and annoying account fees. at e-trade, our free easy-to-use online tools and experienced retirement specialists can help you build a personalized plan. and with our no annual fee iras and a wide range of low cost investments, you can execute the plan you want at a low cost. so meet with us, or go to etrade.com for a great retirement plan with low cost investments. ♪ yoo-hoo. hello. it's water from the drinking fountain at the mall. [ male announcer ] great tasting tap water can come from any faucet anywhere. the brita bottle with the filter inside. after just one use? think again. [ female announcer ] with olay
obama's press secretary and whether or not it's validation of the obama administration's stance on doma. >>> possibly no more super-sizing your soda. have you heard about this? mayor michael bloomberg's controversial proposal. >>> a battle over a will that would make it a crime tolingly seek an abortion based on gender. sheila jackson lee joins me to weigh in. [ female announcer ] want to spend less and retire with more? then don't get nickle and dimed by high cost investments...
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in a statement, the marriage equality group freedom to marry called the decision -- doma latere more on in the broadcast. the new york times has revealed president obama has waged a major cyberweapons operation against iran since the early days of his administration. the program, known as olympic games, has been used to sabotage the computer systems at iran's nuclear facilities. it began under the bush administration, but was significantly expanded when obama took office in 2009. obama decided to continue the program in 2010, even after part of it became public when it accidentally unleashed a computer worm known as suxtenet, -- across the global internet. developed with the help of israeli intelligence, suxtenet is said to have destroyed some of iran's centrifuges, but the full extent of the damage is unclear. the obama administration's cybercampaign in iran is believed to be the first sustained effort by one country to destroy another's infrastructure through computer attacks. house lawmakers have defeated the bill that would have banned abortions based on the sex of the fetus. whi
in a statement, the marriage equality group freedom to marry called the decision -- doma latere more on in the broadcast. the new york times has revealed president obama has waged a major cyberweapons operation against iran since the early days of his administration. the program, known as olympic games, has been used to sabotage the computer systems at iran's nuclear facilities. it began under the bush administration, but was significantly expanded when obama took office in 2009. obama decided...
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doma, there's a lot of room for them to do bigger steps. they could just say there is an equal protection right to same- sex marriage. i don't think there's any chance they would do that. i think whenever they do, it will be a smaller step. i don't think they will call it a big step, but they will present it as a modification of existing doctrine. >> on the topic of big steps in small steps, its often part with the prejudicial activism and i don't think we should do that in a knee-jerk way. i think the big step is often the logically necessary step and a small step can be incoherent. the big step is often times the right answer and you should not reject it just of the grounds that it's a big step. >> the federalist society endorses judicial activism, but let me ask you this question. it does it matter how the justices get along with each other after what were apparently some somewhat surprised if not her feelings at the end of last term? does that matter in terms of what we will see this term or is that forgotten and everyone is happy now?
doma, there's a lot of room for them to do bigger steps. they could just say there is an equal protection right to same- sex marriage. i don't think there's any chance they would do that. i think whenever they do, it will be a smaller step. i don't think they will call it a big step, but they will present it as a modification of existing doctrine. >> on the topic of big steps in small steps, its often part with the prejudicial activism and i don't think we should do that in a knee-jerk...
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if we first talk about doma, if it is struck down, what does that mean nationally? >> well, it means only that if you live in a state that permits same-sex marriage and you are in a same-sex marriage, that the federal government will recognize your marriage. doma does not require states to do anything. it doesn't require anybody to do anything. but right now it prevents the federal government from granting recognition to same-sex marriages like, for instance, in new york. if that is struck down, the people who are married in states that allow it will get full federal recognition. >> which is over more than 1,000 federal benefits that go along with that. >> it's very important. it would be very significant. >> jonathan, we talk about prop 8 in california. if that is struck down, does that mean marriage equality then for all intents and purposes is legal in all states? does what happens in california then change the relevance for 49 other states? >> well, this all gets to how the supreme court rules. you know, i think it was the ninth circuit -- the ninth circuit cour
if we first talk about doma, if it is struck down, what does that mean nationally? >> well, it means only that if you live in a state that permits same-sex marriage and you are in a same-sex marriage, that the federal government will recognize your marriage. doma does not require states to do anything. it doesn't require anybody to do anything. but right now it prevents the federal government from granting recognition to same-sex marriages like, for instance, in new york. if that is...
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administration did the right thing in pulling back from their defense of doma. we're making a lot of progress, and invariably something goes in front of the court i hope what david boyes has put togetrnd tedlslsen. >> let's tete t te presio ntpsint amam u wu wayay kearneyey today saiai he has not changed his position on this. >> yeah. >> now i know there is some other data out here from that gallon -- gallup poll, which is that 78% of liberals support gay marriage 65% of moderates support gay major -- marriage. so if you had to give president obama advice in the middle of an election should the president reverse his decision? >> i think he should do what he thinks -- well, i think he should do the right thing. as dr. king reminded us, it's always the right time to do the right thing and stand up on principlement you can't run the 90-yard dark as i said on equality, marriage is marriage f. we believe in full equality for some americans regardless of gender and ethnicity we need to believe that. >> what would you suggest? >> to do what's in the best interest of hi
administration did the right thing in pulling back from their defense of doma. we're making a lot of progress, and invariably something goes in front of the court i hope what david boyes has put togetrnd tedlslsen. >> let's tete t te presio ntpsint amam u wu wayay kearneyey today saiai he has not changed his position on this. >> yeah. >> now i know there is some other data out here from that gallon -- gallup poll, which is that 78% of liberals support gay marriage 65% of...
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it consists of the doma challenges. one of them is one of the court court is most likely to grant review in. all these courts have found federal statutes to be unconstitutional in the supreme court has to resolve that. that is what it does. if it doesn't do that, doesn't do anything. so i think there is a question about which case will be -- the united states switched its position during the administration from defending doma to arguing that it's unconstitutional. and it has recommended to the courts that there are two cases, there are only two cases in which there has been a court of appeals. i think the windsor case is the more likely one in part because the justice department has recommended that. so i really think that that case will be -- that case will be heard. i will be extremely surprised if the supreme court does not grant review in a case. and that we do not get a decision on the constitutionality of doma. the other two things, the famous case, which shadows a little bit about, is the property case in califor
it consists of the doma challenges. one of them is one of the court court is most likely to grant review in. all these courts have found federal statutes to be unconstitutional in the supreme court has to resolve that. that is what it does. if it doesn't do that, doesn't do anything. so i think there is a question about which case will be -- the united states switched its position during the administration from defending doma to arguing that it's unconstitutional. and it has recommended to the...
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the bipartisan legal advisory group was created and exists solely for them to continue to fight doma through the courts. important to mention this is section 3, federal employee benefits and does not strike down at all the clause of the defense of marriage act that permits states to reject marriages of same-sex couples that take place in other states so, for example, when my moms go down to visit family in florida, regardless of the ruling on this particular issue by the supreme court, my moms aren't married when they step off that plane in florida, so as david mentioned there is still a long ways to go when it dose to this law. >> david boies, let's talk about that long way to go. the issue that zach is talking about regarding his mothers, when this case goes to the supreme court, presumably all aspects of the law will be considered. >> you can't be sure of that. most likely, only the part of the law that was decided in this case will go to the supreme court in this case. now, the supreme court might reach out and deal with both sections of the law. but i think that it's more likely
the bipartisan legal advisory group was created and exists solely for them to continue to fight doma through the courts. important to mention this is section 3, federal employee benefits and does not strike down at all the clause of the defense of marriage act that permits states to reject marriages of same-sex couples that take place in other states so, for example, when my moms go down to visit family in florida, regardless of the ruling on this particular issue by the supreme court, my moms...
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. >> kenji, one of the important ones doma, and the position on doma. where is that progressing? the administration taken a position on it, but it's not over yet. >> absolutely this will be a blockbuster term, the upcoming term, even though everyone is focusing on this one as understandably with health care being such a huge term. next year will be a huge one as well. civil rights issues. both the perry case and douma case will get appealed. the perry case is the california prop 8 case, and the doma case is from massachusetts. the issue on doma and everyone is hoping on the progressive side that the doma case goes up first, it's a smaller bite to ask for from the supreme court, on progress and gay rights. >> because it's just one state? actually, because all it's doing is saying that if a state allows for same-sex marriage, then the federal government has to abide by that decision. so it would not actually change the definition of marriage in any of the 50 states. whereas the other case, the california prop 8 case if it goes up to the supreme court, potentially the supreme court
. >> kenji, one of the important ones doma, and the position on doma. where is that progressing? the administration taken a position on it, but it's not over yet. >> absolutely this will be a blockbuster term, the upcoming term, even though everyone is focusing on this one as understandably with health care being such a huge term. next year will be a huge one as well. civil rights issues. both the perry case and douma case will get appealed. the perry case is the california prop 8...
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and it's a great day to join us because of that doma ruling. they are saying certainly marriage equality is going to go to the supreme court. yay. oh my god, sexy liberalpalooza next saturday, very very exciting. giermo is going to be there. we are official steph heads, we saw you in seattle a couple of weeks ago, and we're going to see you in new york city. >> tom hartman here. and in my opinion there is nothing sexier than be a liberal. the stars of the most successful comedy tour in history, the stephanie miller sexy liberal comedy tour. new york this is comedy news that you need to know. they are coming to you live. ♪ hot child in the city ♪ >> on saturday october 27th right before the presidential election, the sexy liberal comedy tour will perform live on stage. tickets are available online or by calling 800-745-3,000. it's progressive, it's sexsy, find of like fdr in a thong. okay. it's nothing like that. that's the stephanie miller sexy liberal comedy tour. october 27th live at the beacon theater. [ applause ] >> stephanie: thank yo
and it's a great day to join us because of that doma ruling. they are saying certainly marriage equality is going to go to the supreme court. yay. oh my god, sexy liberalpalooza next saturday, very very exciting. giermo is going to be there. we are official steph heads, we saw you in seattle a couple of weeks ago, and we're going to see you in new york city. >> tom hartman here. and in my opinion there is nothing sexier than be a liberal. the stars of the most successful comedy tour in...
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case, or whichever doma case they take. for all kinds of reasons. it's an extraordinary thing that the federal government, while it except for state government definition of marriage for every other kind of marriage including common law marriages or other marriages, there are some differences between the states. this is the one category that gets singled out for differential treatment so that just sets it up i think for justice kennedy who has a romer philosophy, so that is my most hopeful expectation. >> chad, turning around but could you, from a strategic standpoint, is there are risk in bringing these issues to this court? >> i think anytime one files a lawsuit there is always a risk that you can either win or you can lose. i absolutely believe that we are on the right side of this issue. we have the actual constitution in our favor. essays on the trial with 12 days of brilliance that chief judge walker oversaw. we are not opposition. is forced into a court of law, where truth and fact are the only things that matter, un
case, or whichever doma case they take. for all kinds of reasons. it's an extraordinary thing that the federal government, while it except for state government definition of marriage for every other kind of marriage including common law marriages or other marriages, there are some differences between the states. this is the one category that gets singled out for differential treatment so that just sets it up i think for justice kennedy who has a romer philosophy, so that is my most hopeful...
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big picture this morning the first circuit court of appeals ruled that the defense of marriage act doma which denies same sex couples federal benefits is unconstitutional what does this really mean for the future of marriage equality in the united states also new york city mayor michael bloomberg wants to ban sugary drinks at least large size from being sold in the city as part of his fight against obesity in new york should the government have the ability to tell you and me what we can and cannot buy and with the use of drones domestically on the rise the drone industry could soon be the place for american workers to find jobs so one of the consequences of the sudden boom drone usage in developing. dated no this this morning the first circuit court of appeals ruled that the defense of marriage act which denies same sex couples federal benefits is unconstitutional it's actually the judges two of which were republican appointees ruled that by defining a marriage between a man and a woman the law discriminates against gay and lesbian couples since that law was passed in one thousand nine
big picture this morning the first circuit court of appeals ruled that the defense of marriage act doma which denies same sex couples federal benefits is unconstitutional what does this really mean for the future of marriage equality in the united states also new york city mayor michael bloomberg wants to ban sugary drinks at least large size from being sold in the city as part of his fight against obesity in new york should the government have the ability to tell you and me what we can and...
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the doma case doesn't affect any state decisions. where the perry case, the outcome -- >> that's the prop 8 case in california. >> exactly. thank you for helping me out there. the perry case says there's this definition passed by a ballot initiative in 2008 that says that marriage is between one man and one woman. if the the supreme court goes broad on that and says there's a fundamental right for same-sex couples to marry, that could flip the remaining 41 states that don't have same-sex marriage to require them to have same-sex marriage. i don't think that's going to happen. i think there's many weigh stations between 0 and 50. for example, the court could look at this and say there are a bunch of states, eight states that say we're going to give you the rights and benefits of marriage but we're going to withhold the word marriage. the court can look and say you're worried about is brand. all you're saying is if you let gays into marriage that's going to diminish the brand. we're going to strike that down. we're going to add those s
the doma case doesn't affect any state decisions. where the perry case, the outcome -- >> that's the prop 8 case in california. >> exactly. thank you for helping me out there. the perry case says there's this definition passed by a ballot initiative in 2008 that says that marriage is between one man and one woman. if the the supreme court goes broad on that and says there's a fundamental right for same-sex couples to marry, that could flip the remaining 41 states that don't have...
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saying that he supports s-598, which is barbara feinstein's bill which is a bill that would appeal doma. so the president is going on record to appeal the so-called defense of marriage act. and he's been openly supportive in new york, and i think he'll be equally supportive in maryland when they send a bill approving marriage equality and the governor actually signs it. here's the difference between chris christie and president obama. lawrence, you know this well. we live in a representative democracy. we are not in a monarchy and we certainly are not in a dictatorship despite what republicans say. so unless congress sends the president of the united states a bill appealing doma or legalizing same-sex marriage, there is nothing the president can do, other than saying flat out, which is what governor christie wants, i support marriage equality. meanwhile, governor christie, when the duly elected representatives of the people of the state of new jersey passed in the house and the senate sent him a bill legalizing marriage equality when he, as governor, had the ability with the stroke of a
saying that he supports s-598, which is barbara feinstein's bill which is a bill that would appeal doma. so the president is going on record to appeal the so-called defense of marriage act. and he's been openly supportive in new york, and i think he'll be equally supportive in maryland when they send a bill approving marriage equality and the governor actually signs it. here's the difference between chris christie and president obama. lawrence, you know this well. we live in a representative...
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of the doma act, which he didn't believe is constitutional. so, again, it's about a lot of things. and that's why i say it's contemptible. because it mixes misrepresentations, in some circles they would call them lies. i don't like to use words like that. misrepresentations, politics, and misuse and abuse of the power of the majority in the house on this subject. so i vote no as many times as i possibly can today on what they are doing and i will make my decisions about one way or another. but i support the walk off, whether my role is -- would i add more on the floor or on the walk off, i'll make a judgment when that time comes. >> what is your message to republican house members who already are scheduling a vote to repeal, to go forward with this idea of repealing the health care bill the week after the july 4th break. >> first of all, i haven't heard their hearings. have they had hearings on this legislation that they're going to come back a few days after -- really. they're going to have a vote to say, if you're a child and have a pre-exis
of the doma act, which he didn't believe is constitutional. so, again, it's about a lot of things. and that's why i say it's contemptible. because it mixes misrepresentations, in some circles they would call them lies. i don't like to use words like that. misrepresentations, politics, and misuse and abuse of the power of the majority in the house on this subject. so i vote no as many times as i possibly can today on what they are doing and i will make my decisions about one way or another. but...